Curse

Clarissa F · Mar 09, 2008, 02:52 AM // 02:52

Your cracked armor will last about 5 seconds, tops, before Dunk gets condition-happy with the healing. Olias is dead as KFC, but at least I don't have cracked armor!

blue.rellik · Mar 09, 2008, 04:34 AM // 04:34

I would like to point out that -20 armour doesn't always increase all damage by 40%. It only affects armour-affecting sources so something like a Sin will hit you roughly the same with each attack, Frenzy literally is 100% damage though

matsif · Mar 09, 2008, 05:00 AM // 05:00

agressive refrain is 25 energy tho...hard to use mid battle if it runs out

still, after recently starting my paragon, I would have to say AR is better than frenzy, because I put condition removal on all my hero monks and lose the cracked really fast

blue.rellik · Mar 09, 2008, 05:02 AM // 05:02

If AR runs out when you're in battle then you fail at being a paragon

Arkantos · Mar 09, 2008, 05:04 AM // 05:04

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

If AR runs out when you're in battle then you fail at being a paragon

Yes. I really don't see how it's possible for a character that specializes in shouts go without a chant ending in ~20 seconds.

Dr Strangelove · Mar 09, 2008, 06:06 AM // 06:06

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Originally Posted by Arkantos

Yes. I really don't see how it's possible for a character that specializes in shouts go without a chant ending in ~20 seconds.

If your group is really rolling along, it can be a pain in the ass to keep AR up. If I'm going to spend 70% or more of my time running between fights, I just grab flurry. It's not like the damage reduction is going to matter if I'm chainsawing things that quickly.

Richardt · Mar 09, 2008, 06:22 AM // 06:22

Matsif, your AR should only run out if you die in the middle of a fight.

Bring a staff with ya and switch to it when you rez and that'll fix ya right up.

kobey · Mar 09, 2008, 06:22 AM // 06:22

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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

If your group is really rolling along, it can be a pain in the ass to keep AR up. If I'm going to spend 70% or more of my time running between fights, I just grab flurry. It's not like the damage reduction is going to matter if I'm chainsawing things that quickly.

Apologies if I misunderstood your statement, but as mentioned before, you don't have to stop to shout.

fenix · Mar 09, 2008, 06:27 AM // 06:27

The Campfire strikes again.

Frenzy is good on a Warrior, bad on everything else. Just use Aggressive.

Dr Strangelove · Mar 09, 2008, 06:35 AM // 06:35

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Originally Posted by kobey

Apologies if I misunderstood your statement, but as mentioned before, you don't have to stop to shout.

Yes, but you can't be lazy. Anyway, TNTF! is often my only non-adrenaline unconditional self-targeting shout on my bar, and it alone isn't really enough to keep AR up. At 12 leadership, AR has a 21 second duration matched with a 20 second recharge on TNTF!. That really doesn't leave a lot of leeway.

It's pretty easily the better option if you're actually spending most of your time fighting, though.

blue.rellik · Mar 09, 2008, 06:41 AM // 06:41

An option is just to bring "They're on fire!", especially with the buff to blazing spear

fenix · Mar 09, 2008, 06:42 AM // 06:42

I've found that to keep it up, just bring Anthem of Flame. It's hard NOT to keep it up that way... and with 12 leadership it's a 3 second burn, so that's a good thing.

blue.rellik · Mar 09, 2008, 06:44 AM // 06:44

The only problem with that is that the chanter has to stop, which can get annoying. Especially if some have mending refrains on them

fenix · Mar 09, 2008, 06:51 AM // 06:51

True, but it's just for a second, better than the alternative (having to spend 25e over and over)

Dr Strangelove · Mar 09, 2008, 06:57 AM // 06:57

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Originally Posted by blue.rellik

An option is just to bring "They're on fire!", especially with the buff to blazing spear

Hmmm... that might work nicely with [skill]burning refrain[/skill], I'll give it a shot.

As for anthem of flame, it's a pain to keep stopping if I'm running around a lot. However, I usually do use that or anthem of weariness if I'm not.

Racthoh · Mar 09, 2008, 07:04 AM // 07:04

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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

At 12 leadership, AR has a 21 second duration matched with a 20 second recharge on TNTF!. That really doesn't leave a lot of leeway.

See attached. Headpiece swap's are win with refrains.

Luminarus · Mar 09, 2008, 07:06 AM // 07:06

TNTF Recharges in 20 seconds, therefore it ends once every 20 seconds (assuming you use it on recharge), in that case you should have 1 second leeway when running between fights, and AR should never go down. Just switch to a staff the first time you put up AR so you can use tntf straight away if you have to, (and you can wait a bit of time before putting it up due to it ending in 12 seconds (i think thats how long it lasts)

AR > Frenzy when shouts happen. However, frenzy is better for warrior primary's because it isnt in para's primary attribute.

odly · Mar 09, 2008, 07:07 AM // 07:07

The only reasonable alternative for AR is (imo) Drinking + Drunken Master + disabling post processing effects.

It'll cost you a PvE only slot, but it's a cheap maintainble 33% ias. (as is Soldiers fury, but that costs you your elite slot and lasts less long.)